Subject: Затмение 11 авг 1999
Date   : 02 May 1998 08:38 GMT
From   : Vladimir Sazonov [vladimir] (vladimir@berlin.snafu.de)
To     : All

Уважаемые господа,
Передаю на Форум одно из писем с вопросами по затмению 11 авг 1999 11:03 ГМТ для
Мюнхена 11°31'E  48°10'N.
Автор письма потрудился сформулировать 26 вопросов, которые предлагаю обсудить
на Форуме.
С уважением
Владимир


Munich
April 29, 1998

via Mercury@astrologer.com


Dear Mercury Members and other Colleagues:

During my recent month searching the inner planes, one 
of the subjects that's come up repeatedly is the Grand 
Cross / Total Solar Eclipse of Aug. 11, 1999, 11:03 AM 
GMT, exactly over Munich. I don't know if you've seen 
this chart; perhaps you have. It is intense, and I think 
that given the natural power of astrology to look toward 
the future, it makes sense for us to get as much 
information from the chart as possible, from as many 
astrological traditions as possible, and then circulate it in 
the astrological community. So I've created a little survey 
to see what we know.

I need to tap your astrological knowledge and also 
request your help moving this around the astrological 
community. Please post this survey to your newsgroups 
and to the other listserves of which you are a member, 
and to please mail it to astrologers who you feel are 
influential or experts in particular fields. *Everyone's 
comments count* -- whether you've been studying 
astrology for two weeks or two decades. It is a fact that 
very inexperienced astrologers often make very astute 
observations. Then all of the findings will be re-published 
to the people who contributed.

I am interested in two viewpoints on the eclipse: one is 
collective events as they are unfolding during the weeks 
and months around the event, and also what would you 
say counselling people who have planets or aspects that 
are aspected by the eclipse / Grand Cross aspect. I 
welcome general readings on the chart from as many 
astrologers as possible.

As well, I have taken the chart apart into a number of 
component parts and subjects to facilitate analysis and to 
identify areas in which some of us are experts and can 
provide specific feedback. Whatever your specialty in 
astrology, you should see it covered in this list of 
questions. If not, post me please.

One last note. If you have any intuitive feelings about the 
event that do not have astrological backing, those count 
toward this research, in my opinion. And if you know 
about anything in either historical terms or current 
events that is likely to happen during the weeks 
surrounding the event, please tell us. In publishing these 
types of reports, I will make it clear that the origin of 
those comments is not astrological in nature.

Thanks for your help both responding and bouncing this 
survey around the world. Let's see what we learn.

Peace & passion,

ERIC FRANCIS
Moderator, Mercury@astrologer.com
Editor, The Navigator
http://www.Star-Navigator.com
CentaurEF@aol.com

____________________

Questions / Subjects: Total Solar Eclipse at 18 Leo, 21',
August 11, 1989 at 11:03:07 am GMT
(Source: American Ephemeris. Leo New Moon is at 11:09 
a.m.)


1. This is a solar eclipse in the sign Leo. Who has 
experience with these, and what do you know about 
them? How about eclipses in the fixed signs in general?

2. This is a Grand Cross aspect. Who has seen the effects 
of Grand Crosses in history or in current events, 
*without* eclipses involved? Has anyone seen or read 
about an eclipse that is *part of* a Grand Cross aspect? 
What's happened in the past when these arrived?

3. This is an eclipse on the North Node. What is the 
difference between a North Node eclipse and a South 
Node eclipse? Theoretical interpretations or experiential 
reports are both welcome.

4. The eclipse is opposite the planet Uranus, which is on 
the South Node. Any feelings about Uranus on the South 
Node, and any feelings about its direct involvement in an 
eclipse? When were the last few times we've had this 
setup?

5. Squaring the lunar nodes at the time of the eclipse is a 
very exact opposition between Mars and Saturn. What do 
you think this aspect to the eclipse says, and what do you 
think the effect of Mars and Saturn's aspect to the nodes 
says about their strength in the eclipse?

6. What would you say about the Mars-Saturn cycle when 
it reaches the full phase, as it is here? Has anyone looked 
closely at this cycle as part of their studies? What was 
going on at the conjunction point when the cycle began, 
and what was happening at the last opposition?

7. Does anyone who studies essential dignities (Rulership, 
Term, Face, Sect, etc.) have any comments from this 
branch of traditional astrology about the aspect between 
Saturn and Mars? Or the other planets involved?

8. Given the involvement of Saturn, Mars and the Nodes, 
this sounds like a good chart for Vedic astrologers to 
consider. Any comments from the Vedics on the malefics 
lining up in this way? How does Vedic astrology feel 
about contact between the Sun and the North Node? 
When you switch the chart to Sidereal, what do you get?

9. Humanistic astrology is slowly letting go of the idea of 
a "malefic." Can anyone offer an alternative interpretation 
for the aspect between Mars, Saturn and the Nodes, 
separate from or as part of the eclipse?

10. In the setup, Mars is squaring Uranus. Has anyone 
had experience with this mutual aspect, as part of or 
separate from an eclipse? What kinds of events is it 
associated with? How about Saturn square Uranus, which 
is also in the setup?

11. Does anyone have any comments about the general 
nature of the Fixed Cross (the relationship between 
Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius), where this event is 
located? Do we have any information about the 
mythology of the fixed cross or of Leo in particular? What 
does traditional astrology say about the Fixed Cross? Can 
anybody who is into Alice Bailey summarize for us the 
nature and meaning of the Fixed Cross in her school of 
Esoteric Astrology? 

12. There is a reference to something that sounds like the 
Fixed Cross in the Book of Revelation. Any comments?

13. Are there any people who specialize in declination, 
declination midpoints, or superaspects who can comment 
on those aspects of the event?

14. Speaking of midpoints, are there any comments from 
that department? I have seen them prove to give 
remarkable insights into the nature of charts for current 
events.

15. Asteroids often prove to be very useful in looking at 
events of this nature. Any comments from the asteroid 
belt? Can anyone post the positions of a bunch of the 
asteroids for the chart, including Fanatica?

16. The "Uranians," or transneptunian points (TNPs) are 
significantly involved in this setup; several of them are in 
close aspect to the event. Does anyone with familiarity 
with the TNPs have comment about their involvement? 
How about Transpluto?

17. On the subject of Uranian astrology, what do the dials 
look like?

18. Onto Chiron and his friends. The Centaurs are 
positioned very interestingly -- mostly out of the way of 
the event. Any comment from people experienced with 
Chiron, or with Pholus and Nessus? As of this writing in 
late April 1998, Chiron is currently in range of the 
eclipse, making a T-square with Mars and Uranus. Any 
ideas about this? What do you make of Nessus's position 
on the Galactic Center at the time of the eclipse? The 
fourth, as yet un-named Centaur, 1994TA, is directly 
involved, in a close conjunction with Saturn and the TNP 
"Admetus," all in Taurus. Any comments from the 
Centaur tribe about these things?

19. The Sabian Symbol for the event is "A houseboat 
party," representing, "The temporary freedom from 
rigidly structured behavior." Any comments? I think it 
would be worthwhile to look at the Sabians' degree 
ranges through the fixed cross and see what kind of story 
this tells. As well, the Sabian Symbols are not the only 
degree-by-degree interpretation system. If you know of 
others, can you please comment?

20. Are there any Scorpionic America fans out there? 
What is this event's aspecting to that chart? What are the 
progressions to Scorpionic America at the time of the 
event? I have seen interesting alignments of a wide 
variety of progressions of Scorpionic America (solar arc, 
secondary, tertiary, minor, etc.) that may prove 
insightful.

21. The eclipse is at just past noon Munich time, making 
it over Munich. Does anyone who has the West German 
chart want to comment?

22. How do transits and progressions to the UN chart look 
at the time of the event?

23. Do the charts of any nations or corporations glare 
with involvement with the Aug. 11 1999 event? We're 
probably looking for such charts with intense stuff in the 
fixed signs.

24. What do you see when you use Harmonic charts to 
rearrange the setup?

25. What about checking in with entirely different 
astrologies: Dreamspell (Mayan) astrology comes to mind; 
Chinese, Five Star Key; Heliocentric; Horary.

26. As an afterthought, what about checking aspects to 
charts of major transition points, such as the Harmonic 
Convergence, the Challenger, the winter solstice of 2012, 
etc.

I think that covers it for now. Please mail your responses 
to:

mercury@astrologer.com
or to: CentaurEF@aol.com

or if you have received this in hard copy, to:

Eric Francis
Post Office Box 208
Woodstock NY 12498

Thank you!