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Subject: Затмение 11 авг 1999 Date : 02 May 1998 08:38 GMT From : Vladimir Sazonov [vladimir] (vladimir@berlin.snafu.de) To : All
Уважаемые господа, Передаю на Форум одно из писем с вопросами по затмению 11 авг 1999 11:03 ГМТ для Мюнхена 11°31'E 48°10'N. Автор письма потрудился сформулировать 26 вопросов, которые предлагаю обсудить на Форуме. С уважением Владимир Munich April 29, 1998 via Mercury@astrologer.com Dear Mercury Members and other Colleagues: During my recent month searching the inner planes, one of the subjects that's come up repeatedly is the Grand Cross / Total Solar Eclipse of Aug. 11, 1999, 11:03 AM GMT, exactly over Munich. I don't know if you've seen this chart; perhaps you have. It is intense, and I think that given the natural power of astrology to look toward the future, it makes sense for us to get as much information from the chart as possible, from as many astrological traditions as possible, and then circulate it in the astrological community. So I've created a little survey to see what we know. I need to tap your astrological knowledge and also request your help moving this around the astrological community. Please post this survey to your newsgroups and to the other listserves of which you are a member, and to please mail it to astrologers who you feel are influential or experts in particular fields. *Everyone's comments count* -- whether you've been studying astrology for two weeks or two decades. It is a fact that very inexperienced astrologers often make very astute observations. Then all of the findings will be re-published to the people who contributed. I am interested in two viewpoints on the eclipse: one is collective events as they are unfolding during the weeks and months around the event, and also what would you say counselling people who have planets or aspects that are aspected by the eclipse / Grand Cross aspect. I welcome general readings on the chart from as many astrologers as possible. As well, I have taken the chart apart into a number of component parts and subjects to facilitate analysis and to identify areas in which some of us are experts and can provide specific feedback. Whatever your specialty in astrology, you should see it covered in this list of questions. If not, post me please. One last note. If you have any intuitive feelings about the event that do not have astrological backing, those count toward this research, in my opinion. And if you know about anything in either historical terms or current events that is likely to happen during the weeks surrounding the event, please tell us. In publishing these types of reports, I will make it clear that the origin of those comments is not astrological in nature. Thanks for your help both responding and bouncing this survey around the world. Let's see what we learn. Peace & passion, ERIC FRANCIS Moderator, Mercury@astrologer.com Editor, The Navigator http://www.Star-Navigator.com CentaurEF@aol.com ____________________ Questions / Subjects: Total Solar Eclipse at 18 Leo, 21', August 11, 1989 at 11:03:07 am GMT (Source: American Ephemeris. Leo New Moon is at 11:09 a.m.) 1. This is a solar eclipse in the sign Leo. Who has experience with these, and what do you know about them? How about eclipses in the fixed signs in general? 2. This is a Grand Cross aspect. Who has seen the effects of Grand Crosses in history or in current events, *without* eclipses involved? Has anyone seen or read about an eclipse that is *part of* a Grand Cross aspect? What's happened in the past when these arrived? 3. This is an eclipse on the North Node. What is the difference between a North Node eclipse and a South Node eclipse? Theoretical interpretations or experiential reports are both welcome. 4. The eclipse is opposite the planet Uranus, which is on the South Node. Any feelings about Uranus on the South Node, and any feelings about its direct involvement in an eclipse? When were the last few times we've had this setup? 5. Squaring the lunar nodes at the time of the eclipse is a very exact opposition between Mars and Saturn. What do you think this aspect to the eclipse says, and what do you think the effect of Mars and Saturn's aspect to the nodes says about their strength in the eclipse? 6. What would you say about the Mars-Saturn cycle when it reaches the full phase, as it is here? Has anyone looked closely at this cycle as part of their studies? What was going on at the conjunction point when the cycle began, and what was happening at the last opposition? 7. Does anyone who studies essential dignities (Rulership, Term, Face, Sect, etc.) have any comments from this branch of traditional astrology about the aspect between Saturn and Mars? Or the other planets involved? 8. Given the involvement of Saturn, Mars and the Nodes, this sounds like a good chart for Vedic astrologers to consider. Any comments from the Vedics on the malefics lining up in this way? How does Vedic astrology feel about contact between the Sun and the North Node? When you switch the chart to Sidereal, what do you get? 9. Humanistic astrology is slowly letting go of the idea of a "malefic." Can anyone offer an alternative interpretation for the aspect between Mars, Saturn and the Nodes, separate from or as part of the eclipse? 10. In the setup, Mars is squaring Uranus. Has anyone had experience with this mutual aspect, as part of or separate from an eclipse? What kinds of events is it associated with? How about Saturn square Uranus, which is also in the setup? 11. Does anyone have any comments about the general nature of the Fixed Cross (the relationship between Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius), where this event is located? Do we have any information about the mythology of the fixed cross or of Leo in particular? What does traditional astrology say about the Fixed Cross? Can anybody who is into Alice Bailey summarize for us the nature and meaning of the Fixed Cross in her school of Esoteric Astrology? 12. There is a reference to something that sounds like the Fixed Cross in the Book of Revelation. Any comments? 13. Are there any people who specialize in declination, declination midpoints, or superaspects who can comment on those aspects of the event? 14. Speaking of midpoints, are there any comments from that department? I have seen them prove to give remarkable insights into the nature of charts for current events. 15. Asteroids often prove to be very useful in looking at events of this nature. Any comments from the asteroid belt? Can anyone post the positions of a bunch of the asteroids for the chart, including Fanatica? 16. The "Uranians," or transneptunian points (TNPs) are significantly involved in this setup; several of them are in close aspect to the event. Does anyone with familiarity with the TNPs have comment about their involvement? How about Transpluto? 17. On the subject of Uranian astrology, what do the dials look like? 18. Onto Chiron and his friends. The Centaurs are positioned very interestingly -- mostly out of the way of the event. Any comment from people experienced with Chiron, or with Pholus and Nessus? As of this writing in late April 1998, Chiron is currently in range of the eclipse, making a T-square with Mars and Uranus. Any ideas about this? What do you make of Nessus's position on the Galactic Center at the time of the eclipse? The fourth, as yet un-named Centaur, 1994TA, is directly involved, in a close conjunction with Saturn and the TNP "Admetus," all in Taurus. Any comments from the Centaur tribe about these things? 19. The Sabian Symbol for the event is "A houseboat party," representing, "The temporary freedom from rigidly structured behavior." Any comments? I think it would be worthwhile to look at the Sabians' degree ranges through the fixed cross and see what kind of story this tells. As well, the Sabian Symbols are not the only degree-by-degree interpretation system. If you know of others, can you please comment? 20. Are there any Scorpionic America fans out there? What is this event's aspecting to that chart? What are the progressions to Scorpionic America at the time of the event? I have seen interesting alignments of a wide variety of progressions of Scorpionic America (solar arc, secondary, tertiary, minor, etc.) that may prove insightful. 21. The eclipse is at just past noon Munich time, making it over Munich. Does anyone who has the West German chart want to comment? 22. How do transits and progressions to the UN chart look at the time of the event? 23. Do the charts of any nations or corporations glare with involvement with the Aug. 11 1999 event? We're probably looking for such charts with intense stuff in the fixed signs. 24. What do you see when you use Harmonic charts to rearrange the setup? 25. What about checking in with entirely different astrologies: Dreamspell (Mayan) astrology comes to mind; Chinese, Five Star Key; Heliocentric; Horary. 26. As an afterthought, what about checking aspects to charts of major transition points, such as the Harmonic Convergence, the Challenger, the winter solstice of 2012, etc. I think that covers it for now. Please mail your responses to: mercury@astrologer.com or to: CentaurEF@aol.com or if you have received this in hard copy, to: Eric Francis Post Office Box 208 Woodstock NY 12498 Thank you!


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